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From Greg Stein <>
Subject Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache Bloodhound
Date Mon, 12 Dec 2011 08:41:51 GMT
On Dec 12, 2011 3:12 AM, "Jukka Zitting" <> wrote:
> Hi,
> On Fri, Dec 2, 2011 at 4:53 PM, Hyrum K Wright
> <> wrote:
> > By it's own recognition, however, the development community
> > surrounding Trac has largely dissipated, with little mailing list
> > traffic, and very few commits to the source code repository (see [2]).
> >  Private efforts to engage the existing developers in implementing
> > features have been negatively received.  At the same time, other
> > individuals and companies, such as
> > [[|WANdisco]], have expressed interest in
> > helping continue to develop Trac.  These entities would prefer this
> > effort to be at a vendor-neutral location, with the clear process for
> > intellectual property management that comes from the Foundation.
> Do you have pointers to public discussions about this? Without a
> well-documented history of attempts and failure to engage with the
> existing developers this could easily be seen as a hostile fork.

I've seen some offlist discussions with the principals behind Trac. This
has not caught them unaware. One of those devs even created a wiki page at
Edgewall for Bloodhound:

My impression of their view is "ambivalence".

> Most notably, has the idea of bringing Trac itself to the ASF been
> presented to Edgewall? What was their response?

Hyrum has seen more of the discussion and could answer better, but my read
is that ambivalence again. They aren't going to put in an effort themselves
to move Trac itself.

I seem to recall a couple of the devs are interested in the move, and want
to see how it goes.


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