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From Craig L Russell <>
Subject Re: [PROPOSAL] Flex for Apache Incubator
Date Wed, 21 Dec 2011 07:35:51 GMT

On Dec 20, 2011, at 2:51 PM, Ross Gardler wrote:

> On 20 December 2011 22:35, William A. Rowe Jr. <>  
> wrote:
>> On 12/20/2011 4:24 PM, Ross Gardler wrote:
>>> The proposal says "Existing Flex-related conferences, podcasts and
>>> websites should be allowed to continue using “Flex” as part of their
>>> name - Apache Flex will have to create guidelines for that."
>>> Whilst I don't see any problem with that in principle it would be
>>> really useful to itemise these items so that we know what we are
>>> dealing with.
>> It's a problem as a blanket statement.  If the project is not going
>> to donate its name, it needs to pick a new name on its way into the
>> incubator, before graduation.
> The proposal does say the Flex trademark is being donated. The above
> is an indication that there are groups already using that mark and
> they should be allowed to continue to do so. My concern is that there
> may be a for profit using this trademark that expects to continue to
> use it. That, I imagine, would be unacceptable. even not-for-profits
> might present complications.
> Better to understand what these might be in advance.

A quick search of the internet shows these potential conflicts as well: run by Adobe Platform Evangelism Team; will this site die or  
will Apache be expected to maintain it with volunteers? © 2008 Flex. All rights reserved. Site by instant>>>> ISP in Hawaii

I'd really like to have trademarks and legal take a closer look at  
this... We know what a nightmare name conflicts are, even when the  
name in question is as well-known and well-understood as this one.

> ...
>> We love adoption.  We don't want entities to misrepresent themselves
>> as the ASF project itself or that they are endorsed by the ASF.
> Exactly
> Ross
> -- 
> Ross Gardler (@rgardler)
> Programme Leader (Open Development)
> OpenDirective
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