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From Joe Schaefer <>
Subject Re: Feedback on updated NOTICE and LICENSE files (was: [VOTE] Release Kafka 0.7.0-incubating)
Date Fri, 02 Dec 2011 20:55:34 GMT
Well it may be frustrating, but part of the
Incubator's role here is to ferret out issues
like this that many existing ASF projects may
not completely comply with.  That doesn't make
those projects models for Incubating projects
to follow unless the Incubator docs explicitly
point at those projects.

> From: Jakob Homan <>
>Sent: Friday, December 2, 2011 3:51 PM
>Subject: Re: Feedback on updated NOTICE and LICENSE files (was: [VOTE] Release Kafka 0.7.0-incubating)
>OK.  Looking at the current Apache releases, I notice that Apache
>Abdera seems to have a pretty comprehensive NOTICE file that appears
>to cover all the files within the release: Can we
>consider this to be a template for improving our own?
>This would also imply that there would be two NOTICE files for
>projects that release binary distributions.  One for the regular
>release, and an augmented one for the binary release?
>Interestingly, a quick glance at the other Apache projects beginning
>with A shows that while Ant is in compliance (doesn't ship any
>external jars) and Aries has a lot of strange artifacts that I'm not
>sure how to search, all the other active A projects (4/6) of them are
>out of compliance with this rule regarding binary releases, as I
>understand it. Activemq has lots of jars (jasypt-1.7.jar,
>josql-1.5.jar, stax-1.2.0.jar, etc.) but a barebones NOTICE, archiva
>has 162 jars and only two additional notes in NOTICE, avro ships
>avro-csharp-1.6.1.tar.gz that doesn't even have a NOTICE or LICENSE
>and Axis has lots of jars (saaj.jar, wsdl4j-1.5.1.jar,
>wsdl4j-1.5.1.jar, etc.).  So I hope it's clear why it's frustrating to
>have this rule suddenly pop up when it's apparently not enforced in
>the majority of cases (and then to be asked to go and open JIRAs for
>each of these projects on top of it).
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