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From "Alan D. Cabrera" <>
Subject Re: [policy] release vetoes?
Date Mon, 28 Nov 2011 21:19:42 GMT

On Nov 28, 2011, at 11:21 AM, William A. Rowe Jr. wrote:

> On 11/28/2011 1:00 PM, Neha Narkhede wrote:
>>>> That is because, every single time, the RM agreed that the release
>>>> was worth re-cutting.
>> We have been assuming that it is the rule of Apache to cut another RC even
>> if it gets a single -1 vote.
> And that isn't correct, as Joe was kind enough to point out.
>>>> A majority of +1's over -1's is required, obviously :)
>> Although this seems reasonable, do people on this list believe this to be
>> true according to the Apache rulebook ?
>> In other words, can the podling RM and committers question and contest a -1
>> vote ? Is there any possibility of vetoing that ? If yes, who can do that
>> in what circumstances ?
> Yes - you may always try to persuade someone who voted -1 to reconsider,
> especially by providing more information.  For a code veto, that could
> include the fact that they failed to make a technical argument.  Once they
> have a technical basis, you can't "dispute" it even if you disagree with
> it, it remains a veto.  But always try to negotiate towards mutually
> agreeable code!
> No - nobody can veto a release.  But you also can't slip in a vetoed patch
> and say "this is a release vote, its not subject to veto".  Well, as I had
> hinted, the RM can withdraw a vote, which is sort of like a self-veto.

A finer, maybe obvious, point to this statement, there are minimum requirements that must
be adhered to.


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