From general-return-30797-apmail-incubator-general-archive=incubator.apache.org@incubator.apache.org Sat Jul 23 15:25:52 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@www.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@www.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D5A2C655E for ; Sat, 23 Jul 2011 15:25:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 99427 invoked by uid 500); 23 Jul 2011 15:25:51 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 99016 invoked by uid 500); 23 Jul 2011 15:25:51 -0000 Mailing-List: contact general-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: general@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list general@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 99008 invoked by uid 99); 23 Jul 2011 15:25:50 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Sat, 23 Jul 2011 15:25:50 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.7 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,SPF_NEUTRAL X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: neutral (athena.apache.org: 76.96.27.211 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of jim@jagunet.com) Received: from [76.96.27.211] (HELO qmta11.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net) (76.96.27.211) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Sat, 23 Jul 2011 15:25:46 +0000 Received: from omta07.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.59]) by qmta11.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id BTNp1h0021GXsucABTRPyf; Sat, 23 Jul 2011 15:25:23 +0000 Received: from [192.168.199.4] ([98.211.98.209]) by omta07.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id BTRR1h00a4X3Vfm8UTRW0p; Sat, 23 Jul 2011 15:25:31 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache OpenMeetings incubator for Web Conferencing From: Jim Jagielski In-Reply-To: Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2011 11:25:17 -0400 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <61c9bc470911090417m2a770e9avfbcec7816387467d@mail.gmail.com> To: general@incubator.apache.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) V. cool. Big +1 Let me know how I can help. On Jul 21, 2011, at 9:40 AM, seba.wagner@gmail.com wrote: > We would like to propose Openmeetings project to join the incubator. >=20 > Full Proposal: > http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/OpenmeetingsProposal >=20 > Quick summary: > OpenMeetings is Web Conferencing application that fits into > educational or business sector. You can make conference sessions in > different room-types with up to 100 peoples in a Room. It contains all > main features of Web Conferencing: Audio/Video, Whiteboard, Screen > Sharing, Chat and Moderation System. It is translated into more then > 30 languages and its a basic goal of OpenMeetings to be easy to embed > into existing environments. It already uses many of Apache > Technologies like Tomcat, Mina, Velocity, Commons, ... >=20 > As you can see below the last time we did the proposal we had > Hibernate in our software stack, we did refactor the hole project and > use openJPA now. > So that one should be no more blocker to it. > Red5 is used like a Servlet container and licensed under the LGPL, > Red5 can be obtained for example from the Debian Repository: > http://packages.debian.org/wheezy/red5-server >=20 > You may find all existing documents and further material on the > GoogleCode pages: http://code.google.com/p/openmeetings/ >=20 > We appreciate any feedback and comments on the proposal. >=20 > Sebastian Wagner >=20 > 2009/11/9 Ross Gardler : >> Just as a point of interest, I just completed a test meeting using >> OpenMeetings across three sites using the demo server. >>=20 >> I was suitably impressed by the project. It has a few annoying >> limitations, but as an online meeting tool it is very good. to the >> extent that I will almost certainly be installing a copy on our own >> servers. I would be very happy to see it coming into the incubator = and >> would be willing to be a mentor, assuming the legal issues are not >> blockers. >>=20 >> Ross >>=20 >> 2009/11/3 Alexei Fedotov : >>> Noel, >>> Regarding Theora codec, I have checked the page [1]. Currently, = there >>> are no products which successfully use the codec for video >>> communication. Video-phone encodes and decodes the stream in >>> real-time, adopts the quality with regard to network conditions = (e.g. >>> lost packet rate) and tries to minimize subjective effects of = network >>> errors - the list of requirements is broader than for media players >>> Theora is mostly used. The work [2] says suggests using hardware >>> implementations for Theora codec because, otherwise "a computational >>> performance too high to be implemented in the camera by the = universal >>> processor". >>>=20 >>> So at least it requires some time and testing before I can say that >>> Theora-based solution is feasible. Another ecosystem change, like >>> embedding video-codecs in browsers, may resolve our need in a >>> different way. >>>=20 >>> [1] http://www.vorbis.com/software/ >>> [2] http://www3.elphel.com/linuxtag/talks_2005/paper-11081 >>>=20 >>> 2009/11/3 Noel J. Bergman : >>>> Alexei Fedotov wrote: >>>>=20 >>>>> I see two long-term possibilities for synergy. >>>>> 1. BlueSky can integrate browser pannel in their client to handle = a >>>>> whiteboard. In this case the code for whiteboard can be re-used in >>>>> both projects. >>>>=20 >>>>> 2. They promise to get rid from mplayer and ffmpeg dependencies. = If >>>>> they get a working streaming video-client under APL, this would = help >>>>> us to remove the most imporant dependency from Flash. >>>>=20 >>>> They are proposing to move to Theora/Vorbis, which is under a = suitable >>>> license: http://www.vorbis.com/faq/#slic. Would that be suitable = for your >>>> needs? >>>>=20 >>>>> we [also] get more people on Apache who share the same task. >>>>=20 >>>> Agreed. >>>>=20 >>>> --- Noel >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> = --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org >>>> For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> -- >>> With best regards / =D3 =CE=C1=C9=CC=D5=DE=DB=C9=CD=C9 =D0=CF=D6=C5=CC= =C1=CE=C9=D1=CD=C9, >>> Alexei Fedotov / =E1=CC=C5=CB=D3=C5=CA =E6=C5=C4=CF=D4=CF=D7, >>> http://www.telecom-express.ru/ >>> http://harmony.apache.org/ >>> http://www.expressaas.com/ >>> http://openmeetings.googlecode.com/ >>>=20 >>> = --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org >>> For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org >>>=20 >>>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> -- >> Ross Gardler >>=20 >> OSS Watch - supporting open source in education and research >> http://www.oss-watch.ac.uk >>=20 >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org >>=20 >>=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > --=20 > Sebastian Wagner > http://www.webbase-design.de > http://openmeetings.googlecode.com > http://www.wagner-sebastian.com > seba.wagner@gmail.com >=20 > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org >=20 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org