From general-return-30761-apmail-incubator-general-archive=incubator.apache.org@incubator.apache.org Thu Jul 21 17:24:13 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@www.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@www.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 231B56EC3 for ; Thu, 21 Jul 2011 17:24:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 96927 invoked by uid 500); 21 Jul 2011 17:24:12 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 96516 invoked by uid 500); 21 Jul 2011 17:24:11 -0000 Mailing-List: contact general-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: general@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list general@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 96508 invoked by uid 99); 21 Jul 2011 17:24:11 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 21 Jul 2011 17:24:11 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.0 required=5.0 tests=SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: domain of dennis.hamilton@acm.org designates 75.98.160.130 as permitted sender) Received: from [75.98.160.130] (HELO a2s15.a2hosting.com) (75.98.160.130) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 21 Jul 2011 17:24:04 +0000 Received: from 63-226-210-225.tukw.qwest.net ([63.226.210.225] helo=Astraendo) by a2s15.a2hosting.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QjwyL-0005L5-8O; Thu, 21 Jul 2011 13:23:41 -0400 Reply-To: From: "Dennis E. Hamilton" To: Cc: "'Dave Fisher'" , "'Andy Brown'" , "'Rob Weir'" References: <4E276CB7.1070005@the-martin-byrd.net> <4E28333E.3040902@the-martin-byrd.net> <1F9AA919-3865-4FB2-9E51-332E1575C318@comcast.net> In-Reply-To: <1F9AA919-3865-4FB2-9E51-332E1575C318@comcast.net> Subject: RE: [PROPOSAL] ODF Toolkit for Incubation Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 10:23:55 -0700 Organization: NuovoDoc Message-ID: <010f01cc47ca$f8e513b0$eaaf3b10$@acm.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: AQEkzsSOQZC53Kkic043U3FMWQ5+IwF5hT5EAjrfkl8BJugxswKgiEhKAfF69n+V+oblgA== Content-Language: en-us X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - a2s15.a2hosting.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - incubator.apache.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - acm.org 1. In the proposal, "The coders on the existing ODF Toolkit will comprise the initial = committers on the Apache project. These committers have varying degrees = of experience with Apache-style open source development, ranging from = none to being committers on other Apache projects." That strikes me as inadequately expansive/inclusive. It makes me = wonder, why doesn't the project simply stay where it is? You appear to = have a definite roadmap for how you want to see this project proceed. 2. Also, the current code carries template Apache ALv2 notices with = copyright statements such as = /************************************************************************= * * DO NOT ALTER OR REMOVE COPYRIGHT NOTICES OR THIS FILE HEADER *=20 * Copyright 2008, 2010 Oracle and/or its affiliates. All rights = reserved. * Copyright 2009, 2010 IBM. All rights reserved. * [... usual ALv2 template text ...] */ Is it intended that there be an SGA or will this code simply be adapted = as licensed? [I am curious because I have been restructuring some = projects of mine along these lines and I'd like to see how that works.] 3. In the code base, there appear to be other committers (e.g., Devin = and Michel). Is there some reason they are not among the initial = committers? Are the listed Initial Committers the only current = committers on the ODF Toolkit projects? 4. Can we know the contact e-mail and current iCLA status of the = initial committers? - Dennis -----Original Message----- From: Dave Fisher [mailto:dave2wave@comcast.net]=20 Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2011 08:03 To: general@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] ODF Toolkit for Incubation On Jul 21, 2011, at 7:10 AM, Andy Brown wrote: > Rob Weir wrote: >> On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 8:03 PM, Andy Brown = wrote: >>> Rob Weir wrote: >>>> And I've added it to the wiki: >>>> http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/ODFToolkitProposal >>>>=20 >>>> -Rob >>>=20 >>> What can I do to help? >>>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> Good question. Once the project is set up, there will be many areas >> where we would benefit from contributions. Naturally, this includes >> Java programmers, but also QA, documentation, and of course, users. >=20 > I was referring to get it approved as an incubator project. I see no > where to sign up as a committer as we had with OOo. I would like to help as well. Are people allowed to add their names to = the proposal? Regards, Dave --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org