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From "Gavin McDonald" <>
Subject RE: Bluesky calls for a new mentor!
Date Fri, 01 Jul 2011 21:04:41 GMT

> -----Original Message-----
> From: William A. Rowe Jr. []
> Sent: Saturday, 2 July 2011 1:24 AM
> To:
> Subject: Re: Bluesky calls for a new mentor!
> On 7/1/2011 10:19 AM, Luciano Resende wrote:
> > On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 7:49 AM, Benson Margulies <>
> wrote:
> >> Based on the email trail recently, I'm in favor of completing the
> >> vote. I think that there is sufficient evidence that this project has
> >> 'failed to launch' as an Apache community, and should go put itself
> >> on github. If enough people disagree, they can vote -1.
> >>
> >> My vote is +1 to retire.
> >>
> >
> > This will be my sentiment as well, particularly if I look at the
> > commit list archive [1] on Monday and continue to see no commits even
> > after telling the podling that the code should be committed to Apache
> > repository and any cleanup or further development should be done in
> > the open.
> >
> >
> > ky-commits
> We also made it clear the *author* should also commit their own code, and
> all authors should become committers.

Each term (semester) Bluesky will get a new crop of students (committers) and
the old ones will be gone forever.

Are we to keep on creating new committer accts for these folks knowing damn well 
that at the end of the term they disappear and a new lot appears? This is why they (
when they did commit) shared accounts.

For the infra requirements of an Apache project alone, this project does not fit.
Sounds like a great project, but  not one that belongs here under its current style of
working. If they can change that somehow ...

(It's also obvious a 'community' will never get time to gel as the next lot move out/in ,
It's also obvious outsiders to Bluesky will likely not be able to participate, as that is
what the project is about - from their end. (So a diverse community cannot be built...)

I see no benefit to the ASF or Bluesky in continuing on, but I hope to be mistaken.


> I know of no progress on this issue, either.
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