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From Jim Jagielski <>
Subject Happy happy joy joy
Date Thu, 02 Jun 2011 15:17:45 GMT
Guys, if we are going to argue over the mistakes of the pasts
and the slights of the past, quite frankly, we aren't going to
get very far.

This is supposed to be a happy occasion; let's not bicker
and argue about who-killed-who... :)

On Jun 2, 2011, at 11:11 AM, wrote:

> Jochen Wiedmann <> wrote on 06/02/2011 10:25:20 
> AM:
>>> I trust I do not need to explain at length to an Apache PMC the 
> relative
>>> merits of the Apache 2.0 license or the strengths and stability of the
>>> ASF.  I'll take it as granted that this is well-known to you all.  In 
> any
>>> case I am a strict adherent to the practical wisdom of not debating 
> open
>>> source licenses while sober, and I decline to make an exception in 
> this
>>> case.
>> Rob, it may come as a surprise to you: But what I wrote was in no way
>> related to a particular license. I would have written just the same,
>> if Apache would use the LGPL/MPL and LibreOffice where ASL licensed.
>> The point I am trying to make is that it is (IMO) in noone's interest
>> to create a second community (!), the exception (at least it seems)
>> being IBM. Everyone else would be just as happy or even happier if the
>> OO code base, trademarks, etc. where simply donated to TDF.
> Respectfully, Jochen, that is your opinion, but it disproved with every 
> non-IBM name added to the wiki.
> Despite TDF press releases, there was never unanimous support for 
> LibreOffice among members of the community.  We're seeing 
> some of them stand up now and be counted.
> What is best for them?  Really?  Do you really want to tell them what is 
> best for them, what will make everyone happy?!

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