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From "Noel J. Bergman" <>
Subject RE: Apache Incubator Proposal: Splitting^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^HREUNITING the Community?
Date Thu, 02 Jun 2011 20:22:03 GMT
Florian Effenberger wrote:

> Noel J. Bergman wrote:
> > If there is a community split, that decision will rest solely on those
> > who choose not to join our all-inclusive environment.

> So, if TDF does not join the Apache OOo project, a community split is
> our (=TDF) fault. However, if the people proposing the Apache incubator
> project do not join TDF, a community split is not their fault.

> This looks like a rather one-sided view to me.

Look on the positive side, and realize that this is a huge opportunity to
reunite the community.  That's how *I* choose to view it.  That is how Jim,
Jukka and Andreas also appear to view it.  Charles Schulz also seems to
concur that were OO.o's transfer to the ASF have happened right off the bat,
we wouldn't be debating the point.  I'm sure that we're not alone, despite
the fact that we all might wish that this had happened long ago.

Charles says that he doesn't want to "enter a debate on licensing."  But
licensing is an elephant in the room.  Oracle's move with OO.o will fully
open the project to all participants and use-cases, including those who
might previously have had to enter into alternate, paid, licensing
arrangements with the copyright holder.

	--- Noel

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