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From Jim Jagielski <>
Subject Re: Consideration of as a podling
Date Sun, 05 Jun 2011 00:24:19 GMT

On Jun 4, 2011, at 7:18 PM, Nick Kew wrote:

> On Sat, 4 Jun 2011 11:18:16 -0700
> Ralph Goers <> wrote:
>> I've just managed to wade through some 400+ emails to this list in the last 2 days
and I would estimate that less than 10 were particularly relevant to what my vote will ultimately
be on this proposal. It seems pretty clear to me that there is a lot of emotional reaction
to this but a lot of that is from people who don't really seem to grasp what the incubator
process, and perhaps the ASF itself, are about.  First and foremost reading [1] followed by
[2] and [3] should be a requirement before posting to this list.  
> If that's the case then we're sorely missing another forum.
> This discussion has naturally brought in a lot people and views
> from outside the Apache community, whose interest in us has been
> triggered by circumstances not of their making.  Many of them are
> potential future valued contributors to our community, while
> others may prefer TDF and take no further part after this discussion.
> Whilst your references should be essential reading in due course
> for those who stay, we should not raise too high a bar to those
> whose interest is OOO/TDF but who are new to and maybe undecided on
> ASF participation!

Ralph's point, as I understood it, was that there is some basic information
about the Apache Incubation process that would be useful to know when
posting in the list... Even if
just to know that all participants have some basic, low-level
common understanding, as it helps to avoid misunderstandings...

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