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From "Charles-H. Schulz" <>
Subject Re: Apache Incubator Proposal: Splitting^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^HREUNITING the Community?
Date Thu, 02 Jun 2011 20:39:56 GMT
Hello Noel,

2011/6/2 Noel J. Bergman <>

> Florian Effenberger wrote:
> > Noel J. Bergman wrote:
> > > If there is a community split, that decision will rest solely on those
> > > who choose not to join our all-inclusive environment.
> > So, if TDF does not join the Apache OOo project, a community split is
> > our (=TDF) fault. However, if the people proposing the Apache incubator
> > project do not join TDF, a community split is not their fault.
> > This looks like a rather one-sided view to me.
> Look on the positive side, and realize that this is a huge opportunity to
> reunite the community.  That's how *I* choose to view it.  That is how Jim,
> Jukka and Andreas also appear to view it.  Charles Schulz also seems to
> concur that were OO.o's transfer to the ASF have happened right off the
> bat,
> we wouldn't be debating the point.  I'm sure that we're not alone, despite
> the fact that we all might wish that this had happened long ago.

You misunderstood me, I think: I'm saying that in the real world,
LibreOffice has happened and that Openoffice being given to Apache is odd
and not the best thing that could have happened.

> Charles says that he doesn't want to "enter a debate on licensing."  But
> licensing is an elephant in the room.  Oracle's move with OO.o will fully
> open the project to all participants and use-cases, including those who
> might previously have had to enter into alternate, paid, licensing
> arrangements with the copyright holder.

And it comes with arrangements that create issues.


>        --- Noel
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