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From Greg Stein <>
Subject Re: Apache Incubator Proposal
Date Wed, 01 Jun 2011 16:29:10 GMT
On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 12:21, Ross Gardler <> wrote:
> Thanks for this exciting proposal. I have a few questions.
> There are only two initial committers identified in the proposal. Why only
> two for such a large codebase?

Hopefully more will show up. As with other podlings, we're usually
quite liberal with adding people onto the "Initial Committers" list.

> The proposal states "Both Oracle and ASF agree that the
> development community, previously fragmented, would re-unite under ASF to
> ensure a stable and long term future for" What evidence is
> there to support this bold statement? And who are the "ASF" that made this
> statement?

No idea. Maybe they're missing a "we hope".

> "The initial developers are very familiar with open source development, both
> at Apache and elsewhere. " I don't see any obvious engagement of either of
> the initial committers with existing ASF projects and the proposal does not
> provide any evidence for the claimed familiarity. Existing experience is, of
> course, not required for entry into the incubator. I'm just wondering if
> I've missed something?

IBM has said they're going to put a bunch of people on the project.
Presumably, they have experience (certainly, IBM as whole has plenty
of Apache experience)

> There is a statement that "Oracle will assist in the transition and
> migration from", I am probably reading too much into it, but
> why is there not a statement that Oracle intend to continue development once
> the transition is complete?

Maybe because they don't intend to. *shrug*

> As you will no doubt know, the incubator is not a place for code dumps and I
> expect that recent events will make plenty of people worry that this is, in
> fact, a code dump. By answering these questions I hope you can start to
> address these concerns for the Incubator PMC.

It would only be a code drop if nobody was there to pick it up. At
least IBM sounds like they want to work on it. How many others will be
attracted by this proposal, and join in?

(of course, if it looks like nobody is going to work on it, then
yes... the Incubator would probably just reject the proposal)


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