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From Greg Stein <>
Subject Re: Apache Incubator Proposal
Date Wed, 01 Jun 2011 19:22:06 GMT
On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 14:56, Jochen Wiedmann <> wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 8:24 PM,  <> wrote:
>> We could have put a much longer list of IBM names on this list, developers
>> familiar with the code base via their work on Lotus Symphony (which is our
>> OpenOffice based project).  But then we could have been criticized for the
>> proposal being too dominated by IBM.  It is clearly our intent to grow
>> this project, both from our corporate developers, but also by recruiting
>> new members to the project, including developers from related open source
>> projects (see my previous note)
> And why couldn't IBM do quite the same with LibreOffice, or, even
> better, with a remerged O/LOffice?

IBM has long seemed to favor the ALv2 when they build products on top
of underlying OSS software. I imagine that building Lotus Symphony on
top of an Apache codebase will be *much* easier for them [than the
copyleft'd LibreOffice), since they won't have to carefully partition
codebases and linking and stuff like that.

I believe this is one area where the LibreOffice people don't have it
quite right: the copyleft actually *prevents* corporations like IBM
from contributing in many ways. It is true that many changes are
returned to the codebase due to the copyleft, which may otherwise stay
private, but I don't believe that is a long-term strategy. Companies
building atop OSS projects generally have an incentive to return
changes to keep their patchset small (or, at least, to create hook
points for their changes). Some companies might not participate at
all, due to the copyleft.

(and I *am* glad that TDF does not require copyright assignment; that
is horrible for building a community, though it certainly helps Apache
today, with this proposal from Oracle)


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