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From Keith Curtis <>
Subject Re: OpenOffice & LibreOffice
Date Sun, 05 Jun 2011 20:56:04 GMT
On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 10:47 AM, William A. Rowe Jr.
<> wrote:

> others, "Free/Libre" software.  Nobody is suggesting that any AL work
> is ever "Free/Libre".  There is a multiplicity of Open Source thought,
> and we won't go into detail, others have done so better than the two
> of us can.

The first step to abandoning the Apache license is for others to
recognize like you have that it is not a "free/libre" license. I don't
know why people bother to put the Apache text at the top of every
file, when someone else can just as quickly remove / relicense it.
Anyway, that is for another day other than the fact that I think IBM
should be endorsing the LGPL / GPL as their preferred license.

> With that said...
>> LibreOffice is a success, and way ahead of you guys
> As an advocate of the one true license, I make several assumptions;
> that you have a disdain for the Microsoft and OS/X ports, as those
> operating systems are not Free.  You aren't particularly keen on the
> BSD ports either, not because it is not Free, but that it does not
> promote the cause of software freedom.  You have a goal of having
> the best collection of software possible available on Free Operating
> Systems, notably Linux.  Sorry for any mischaracterization, but I
> would like to use your strong post to draw out this point;

You assumptions are wrong. I am a former MS employee but have no
disdain for them, and I've written words demonstrating that. I have
nothing against the Mac but the incompatible keystrokes. Not sure if
it rises to the level of disdain. Don't focus on me, focus on the GPL
and LibreOffice.

> But I don't see any licensing argument for LibreOffice to even try
> to be the preeminent Windows or OS/X port of the software, since
> by definition improving GPL works for a closed source operating
> system is something of an oxymoron.

LibreOffice has not decided to abandon Windows and the Mac. Lots of
geek communities build free software that works on multiple hardware /
OSes, and as the work has already been done, they just have to
maintain it. They would be foolish to get rid of it, and they are not


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