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From Ian Lynch <>
Subject Re: Apache Incubator Proposal: Splitting the Community?
Date Fri, 03 Jun 2011 18:04:13 GMT
On 3 June 2011 18:36, Simon Phipps <> wrote:

> > Thing is that this is done, Oracle didn't and won't now give the IP to
> any
> > other foundation.  So we are where we are.
> We may be where we are, but we collectively have the opportunity to
> collaborate once Oracle has gone - that's what "open" means.  "My way or the
> highway" talk - from any side - is detestable.  ASF has the opportunity to
> reject the bait to head down the path of ideological conflict, choose a
> conciliatory path that respects the existing community and especially to use
> the trademark

Which is what I thought I said :-) It's not just ASF though it takes two to
tango ;-) One option is for TDF to carry on with a copy left license and
OOo, Apache. There may or may not be practical alternatives but even if it
is the former case we need to agree we can work together. One side seemingly
trying to coerce the other into a particualar license (or anything else at
this stage) is going to be counter-productive.

It's why I think we need to get the agreement of working together first and
then discuss details of licensing strategy etc. One step at a time. Let's
get some TDF people on the commit list to show we at least intend to be
united in open source if not united in every detail.

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