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From Ian Lynch <>
Subject Re: Apache Incubator Proposal: Collaboration with TDF/LO
Date Sat, 04 Jun 2011 16:31:41 GMT
On 4 June 2011 13:37, <> wrote:

> Simon Phipps <> wrote on 06/04/2011 07:43:50 AM:
> >
> > On 4 Jun 2011, at 12:19, Sam Ruby <> wrote:
> > >
> > >>
> > > LibreOffice complements anything we do here at Apache to those who
> > > agree with the license terms under which LibreOffice is made
> > > available.  Until or unless we resolve that issue, I feel that the
> > > statement above would need to be both qualified in this manner and
> > > extended to enumerate other complements that might apply in other
> > > situations.
> >
> > I disagree. LO has a focus on the binary deliverables and the
> > consumer destinations they reach that is perfectly complementary to
> > the developer focus of Apache. This complementarity is entirely
> > unrelated to licensing.
> >
> I'll assert that there is a subset of participants on this list, taking
> part in this discussion and whom have added their names to the proposed
> committers list who feel strongly that the proposed project's efforts
> should include a strong end-user focus.

That is certainly true of myself and I suspect Manfred Reiter. We are both
interested in certification and marketing as we both have professional
backgrounds in vocational education and training. I was formerly education
lead for  OOo and Manfred formerly co-lead for the German project. We are
currently collaborating in EU funded projects. I wrote an application for
funding that is being presented through the German National Agency for an certification project - even if this application failed we
can do others and the focus has to be impact on end-users.

>  I'm willing to believe that there
> is also a subset that thinks otherwise. If these difference can be
> resolved, that would be best.  But if not, I'll suggest that this is a
> fundamental difference of vision which probably cannot be reconciled
> within a single proposal.

If for some organisational reason it is better for us to be in camp foo
rather than camp bar we have no problem. We just want to help people get
free and open source office productivity tools. We will work cooperatively
with anyone who has similar broad goals.


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