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From Greg Stein <>
Subject Re: Apache Incubator Proposal: Collaboration with TDF/LO
Date Fri, 03 Jun 2011 18:57:48 GMT
On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 14:50,  <> wrote:
> Greg Stein <> wrote on 06/03/2011 02:27:55 PM:
>> Your proposed text does not cover the fact that TDF/LO can lift code
>> from ASF into their products.
> This is true, but would you call that collaboration?


Q: "How does the TDF work with the ASF?"
A: "Snarf our code at will."

Collaboration is not always reciprocal (heh). We can make changes in
our codebase to support them. They can take any and all changes. They
can ask us if we could do $X and then they'll incorporate our modified
code into LO.

If you don't call that collaboration, then we've got big issues.

> I think that it is the very nature of Apache that anyone can take source
> code from our projects and reuse them on whatever fashion they wish.  I'm
> not opposed to saying that explicitly in the wiki, but I was thinking that
> the proposal is a good place to note any places where we foresee
> collaboration that goes beyond the downstream rights that are inherent in
> the license.

Calling TDF/LO "one of many who can take our source" is disingenuous.
They are VERY definitely NOT just "one of the crowd".

If you're going to write a section on collaboration, then it must
include how they can use our code.



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