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From Robert Burrell Donkin <>
Subject Re: Apache Incubator Proposal: Meritocracy and Committers for non-coders?
Date Fri, 03 Jun 2011 17:17:45 GMT
On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 3:08 PM, Ross Gardler <> wrote:
> On 02/06/2011 14:43, wrote:
>> Simon Brouwer<>  wrote on 06/02/2011 09:21:53 AM:


>> What isn't clear to me are things like the following:
>> 1) A strong QA member, who does manual testing, enters defect reports,
>> does smoke tests, etc.  How do they advance in the meritocracy?  Is there
>> any opportunity for them to be recognized as a committer and eventually as
>> a PMC member?
> Exactly the same as any other committer.
> We see them doing work and nominate them for committership. See
> (specifically the section
> "Guidelines for assessing new candidates for committership")
> It's important to understand one of our key rules around here is "if it
> didn't happen on the list, it didn't happen". As well encouraging
> transparency this ensures that peoples hard work is visible and thus earns
> merit.


So think about how to make contributions outside code as open,
transparent and visible as possible...

>> All of these roles (and others which I've surely missed) are critical to
>> the project's success.  How does a project typically recognize the lead
>> contributors in these areas?  Is it a case of "If it is not checked into
>> the repository, it doesn't count" ??  I hope note.
> is no different to any other project in these respects, it
> works for all our existing projects, I'm confident it will work for
> ;-)


At Apache, we push power downwards towards projects and outwards
towards the community.

This means we don't have to pretend we have all the answers but our
confidence arises from our past success in helping communities build
themselves. Answers will come from within the community. We like to
share the ways we have found success in the past and to eliminate
known paths to failure.

Community over code :-)


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