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From Ian Lynch <>
Subject Re: Recuse as mentor?
Date Sat, 04 Jun 2011 15:29:49 GMT
On 4 June 2011 12:52, Allen Pulsifer <> wrote:

> > Jim Jagielski <> wote:
> > Seems that some people are not happy with my outreach to the communties,
> or whatever...
> > There are plenty of suggestions and posts on things that I have done
> wrong, or did not do,
> > or did not due to someone's satisfaction.
> > If people want, I will happily remove myself as mentor. This is supposed
> to be fun and at
> > least *somewhat* fulfilling...
> Hello Jim,
> There is no question that the former OpenOffice community is now fractured,
> and some people have some strong negative feelings about certain parties.
> That is an environment which neither of us caused but it is what it is and
> something we need to deal with.
> With that backdrop, I have been perplexed and concerned with some of your
> public postings.  They have been things I might expect to see coming from a
> member of the gallery, but not from the President of the Apache Software
> Foundation, a project mentor, and a person who I would think would be
> trying
> to promote a sense of community.  Its seems that you have a high level of
> mistrust for certain persons and are not prepared to reach out
> magnanimously
> to all parties in an attempt to bring them together.  I see this as
> creating
> ongoing problems.
> When I initially read your offer to recuse yourself as a mentor, I read it
> and gave it some thought but had no immediate response.  With your post
> this
> morning however, and while speaking only as a member of the OpenOffice
> community and a guest here at the Apache Software Foundation, I am now
> prepared to accept your offer to recuse yourself as a mentor.

As a long time member of the OOo community myself I say you should stay.
This is all a bit contentious so let's try to keep things friendly and if we
say things we regret or are taken the wrong way, apologise and move on.

> Thank you,
> Allen
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