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From Joe Schaefer <>
Subject Re: OpenOffice & LibreOffice
Date Sun, 05 Jun 2011 21:41:05 GMT
Look, for reasons that won't ever be aired publically, TDF
and Oracle failed to work out amicable terms.  Instead they
worked out terms with us.  We aren't all that picky about
new initiatives, that's why we have an incubation process
to ferret out sustainable activity from those that aren't.

I'm happy that there are a number of people who still care about
the OOo brand that are willing to work here under our rules.
For those that aren't, and are more interested in the LO brand, have
an appropriate amount of fun.  We'd still like you to collaborate with
us even if it just means the collaboration is one-way- we're funny
like that.  If our code improves your project, all we ask is that
you respect the license it came with.

----- Original Message ----
> From: Keith Curtis <>
> To:
> Sent: Sun, June 5, 2011 5:32:03 PM
> Subject: Re: OpenOffice & LibreOffice
> On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 2:01 PM, Joe Schaefer <>  wrote:
> > Your input on lists hasn't impressed anyone  with
> > your general aptitude or social skill level.  By all means,
> >  if you insist on making more juvenile remarks we will be
> > delighted to  serve them up to the public for as long as
> > the org exists.
> I  don't represent LibreOffice so I don't have to be polite. I'm just
> going to  make a few words and then leave and work on my own tasks. I'm
> a writer  hawking books, so if you quote me, please link to my book.
> I wish the  Apache org was more useful to me than just providing my HTTP 
> I  try to be polite / constructive, you should see what I delete. I
> want people  to work together in the same codebases. Things go faster
> that way. Forking is  expensive and damaging social engineering.
> LibreOffice is a great  organization with great people and you would be
> foolish to not work with them  and leverage what they've done. I'll
> work on quitting being juvenile if you  work on quitting  ignoring
> facts.
> -Keith
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