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From Ralph Goers <>
Subject Re: OpenOffice & LibreOffice
Date Sun, 05 Jun 2011 23:13:25 GMT

On Jun 5, 2011, at 3:51 PM, Keith Curtis wrote:

> On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 3:42 PM, Gavin McDonald <> wrote:
>> It provides over 150 other projects, all of them are useless to you ?
> Yes, almost all of them are Java, and I don't have Java installed on
> my laptop or server.
> Apache is clearly useful to lots of other people, but by picking Java
> it has hurt its situation in the Linux community with people like me.

Please, before you post here could you get some understanding of the ASF?  The Apache Software
Foundation doesn't "pick" anything.  If you want to code in SNOBOL, Pascal, Fortran, Mumps,
APL, C/C++, Assembly or any other language we really don't care.  All we care about is that
you can build a community and that your code is released under the Apache license.  Obviously,
there are a ton of people who disagree with you because they all proposed Java-based projects
and attracted developers.

As for the "support of IBM" you mentioned in another email, I almost fell over laughing. 
First, the ASF is made up entirely of individuals, both as committers and members. No corporations
allowed.  We do accept sponsorships both from individuals and corporations. What that buys
you is what is documented at  Primarily
the benefit consists entirely of what you see on

I posted these in a prior post but you either didn't read them or just skimmed them. Please
read them again.


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