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From "William A. Rowe Jr." <>
Subject Re: OpenOffice: were are we now?
Date Mon, 06 Jun 2011 06:02:21 GMT
On 6/6/2011 12:47 AM, Phil Steitz wrote:
> On 6/5/11 10:16 PM, William A. Rowe Jr. wrote:
>> ASF members wish to devote considerable time and energy to this
>> project, so exactly who the hell are you to decide what they should
>> and shouldn't devote that time and energy to?
> I am just a volunteer who has seen the ASF struggle with
> growth-related issues for several years now.  I think it is a fair
> question to ask whether we should think about different / more
> selective criteria for entrance to the incubator.  Sorry if asking
> that question offends you.

To clarify this, because we have so many guests and observers trying
to figure out the ASF...

Sufficient numbers of board members, ASF members and even incubator
team members have signed up as mentors.

But more to the point, the central premise of the ASF is to facilitate
developers to scratch their own itch.  If improving particular processes,
code or documentation interests you, by all means, do it.  If some part
of the code holds no interest to you, let someone else.  And if you come
to the ASF (even as a user) complaining about a particular piece of code,
bring a patch, not a complaint, if you "expect" it to be fixed.

The mentor list suggests to me that there are enough volunteers for
this particular itch to accept it for graduation.  Phil, you are not
responsible and should not feel responsible to follow the activities of
this project if it truly isn't your itch.

To address your concern, we should raise this issue to the board and
set a policy of accepting no further projects, if your opinion is shared
by the rest of the incubator PMC.  That concern need not be applied on
a project-by-project basis (except to ensure there are sufficient number
of interested mentors).

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