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From Ross Gardler <>
Subject Re: Apache Incubator Proposal
Date Wed, 01 Jun 2011 16:21:23 GMT
Thanks for this exciting proposal. I have a few questions.

There are only two initial committers identified in the proposal. Why 
only two for such a large codebase?

It's going to be very hard for two committers to manage and maintain 
this code.

The proposal states "Both Oracle and ASF agree that the 
development community, previously fragmented, would re-unite under ASF 
to ensure a stable and long term future for" What 
evidence is there to support this bold statement? And who are the "ASF" 
that made this statement?

"The initial developers are very familiar with open source development, 
both at Apache and elsewhere. " I don't see any obvious engagement of 
either of the initial committers with existing ASF projects and the 
proposal does not provide any evidence for the claimed familiarity. 
Existing experience is, of course, not required for entry into the 
incubator. I'm just wondering if I've missed something?

There is a statement that "Oracle will assist in the transition and 
migration from", I am probably reading too much into it, 
but why is there not a statement that Oracle intend to continue 
development once the transition is complete?

I hope my questions don't push you onto the defensive, that's not my 
intention. This is going to be a hard project to bring into the 
incubator given the recent history of

As you will no doubt know, the incubator is not a place for code dumps 
and I expect that recent events will make plenty of people worry that 
this is, in fact, a code dump. By answering these questions I hope you 
can start to address these concerns for the Incubator PMC.


On 01/06/2011 16:41, Luke Kowalski wrote:
> The following project is being sent in as an incubator candidate.
> regards
> luke
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