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From Joe Schaefer <>
Subject Re: OpenOffice: were are we now?
Date Sun, 05 Jun 2011 19:57:05 GMT
I don't think there's any question at this point that
there will be a peaceful coexistence between LO and
Apache OO.  Most of us in the IPMC tho are trying for
a better pooling of resources than to simply have 2
competing brands.

Pragmatic developers will want to see the general decisions
and directions of the two projects to move in concert
with one another, so as to maximize code reuse.  Ideally
we can convince LO to "pull" from us as upstream providers
of the core of the product, and they will respect our license
headers accordingly.  And when contributions come back to them
regarding that core, they will either tell the contributor
to resubmit upstream or do so on their behalf.  I think at
this point that would be the best situation for both communities.
But it leaves LO subject to our decisions, which will be a
sticking point for many devs who don't want to get involved
with the ASF.

To bridge that gap will require trust bonds to be built on
both sides.  Generosity with the use of the OOo mark on our
part combined with generosity from TDF regarding build/distribution
resources is just a first step in the chain.

----- Original Message ----
> From: "" <>
> To:
> Sent: Sun, June 5, 2011 3:44:35 PM
> Subject: Re: OpenOffice: were are we now?
> Niall Pemberton <> wrote  on 06/05/2011 02:21:01 
> PM:
> > 
> > This proposal raises lots of  questions, but the requirements for
> > entering the incubator are not high  and so IMO don't need to be
> > answered before a vote. The only reason I  believe for rejecting this
> > proposal would be because it would be in the  best interests of the
> > community to not split the FOSS development and  compete with
> > LibreOffice.
> > 
> Not to state the obvious, but  OOo was LGPL when LO split from it last 
> year.  If you look at the list  of proposed committers, you will see names 
> with addresses.  The community  is currently split.  It has 
> been for quite a while now.  This  predates this discussion and it predates 
> LO.  There was a split between  Novell and Sun/Oracle years ago. Any 
> analysis that does not acknowledge  these critical facts is incomplete. The 
> community is split today.
> I  am puzzled by the view one open source project should not compete 
> against  another.  We have several Linux distros.  We have BSD.  We have 
> other FOSS office suites, like KOffice, Abi Word, Gnumeric, etc.  Some 
> might even suggest, just to be provocative, that progress often comes from 
> competition.  Just as clearly, progress comes from collaboration as  well. 
> It will probably end up to be a mix of competition and collaboration.  That 
> is not necessarily a bad thing. 
> -Rob
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