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From Joe Schaefer <>
Subject Re: OpenOffice: were are we now?
Date Sun, 05 Jun 2011 20:22:35 GMT
Sounds great, but so far I count only 2 committers on the
project associated with IBM.  IMO you're off by a factor
or so, so claims that IBM intends to take this project
seriously will be discounted by me until that is rectified.

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> Subject: Re: OpenOffice: were are we now?
> Joe Schaefer <> wrote on  06/05/2011 03:57:05 PM:
> > 
> > To bridge that gap will require trust  bonds to be built on
> > both sides.  Generosity with the use of the  OOo mark on our
> > part combined with generosity from TDF regarding  build/distribution
> > resources is just a first step in the chain.
> > 
> I agree that bonds of trust will need to be built.  But I am not so 
> sanguine we know today what the best ways of collaboration will be.  We 
> might be surprised by how much progress will be made by having the 
> developers talk this over on the project list over a few weeks, compared 
> to what IPMC members might think on this topic after only a few days.   So 
> it might be premature to say that we actually know what the "first step  in 
> the chain" is at this point. 
> Another part of the web of trust  here will be for the IPMC to trust the 
> podling to star, in some small way,  figuring out some of these things on 
> their own, working along with their  peers at TDF/LO.  We might stumble. We 
> will need help from  mentors.  We're certainly be monitored by the IPMC. 
> That is what  incubation is for.   But ultimately, for the long term 
> strength of the  project, we need to discuss and resolve some of these 
> issues in the  project.  Collaboration with related work in other 
> communities,  downstream, upstream or cross-stream, as well as with users, 
> is an important  function of any Apache project.  We plan on taking that 
> function  seriously.
> -Rob
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