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From Ralph Goers <>
Subject Re: OpenOffice & LibreOffice
Date Sun, 05 Jun 2011 23:36:41 GMT

On Jun 5, 2011, at 4:28 PM, Keith Curtis wrote:

> On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 4:13 PM, Ralph Goers <> wrote:
>> Please, before you post here could you get some understanding of the ASF?  The Apache
Software Foundation doesn't "pick" anything.
> I realize that everyone makes their own choice, it just seems that
> Java is the dominant language. Whereas it is being phased out of
> LibreOffice.
>> All we care about is that you can build a community and that your code is released
under the Apache license.
> It seems some want more than that, because they also don't want it to
> be relicensed and made GPL later. The Apache license doesn't say
> anything about it, so saying you just want the Apache license does not
> seem totally true.

We don't care what users do with our software.  Those who are smart and create proprietary
products with it contribute back because they don't want to maintain a proprietary fork, but
we don't care if they don't..  They are happy to extend it with their own proprietary stuff
and we are fine with that.
>> As for the "support of IBM" you mentioned in another email, I almost fell over laughing.
> There are a number of people being paid by IBM on this list who are
> involved with this OO effort.

So what? They are here as individuals. I get paid by an employer too. Although I take their
interests into account I am not bound by them.

> I read your stuff. I find it paradoxical that the Apache org claims to
> be pragmatic, yet insists on the Apache license + no relicensing.

What are you talking about? You can relicense to your hearts content. You just can't contribute
it back under some other license otherwise user's couldn't use it and then relicense it. 
If you can't grasp that concept then there really is no point to further discussion.  


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