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From Benson Margulies <>
Subject Re: Real-time communication (was [VOTE] ALOIS to enter the incubator)
Date Fri, 17 Sep 2010 14:20:26 GMT
+1. It's hypocrisy to tell podlings that chat is entirely intolerable
when plenty of running projects have them.

On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 9:58 AM, Glen Daniels <> wrote:
> On 9/17/2010 9:41 AM, Urs Lerch wrote:
>> To cut a long story short: ALOIS is _not_ about a chat channel, it's a
>> tool for security incident and event management. Since the chat channell
>> in the required resources list was only a wish, I gladly dropped it off
>> the proposal.
> Hi Urs,
> While I certainly don't think a chat channel needs to be on the proposal (for
> one thing, Apache projects tend to just use freenode's IRC network), I'd like
> to strongly reiterate Bertrand's points.  Off-list conversation is going to
> happen any time you have multiple devs working at the same company, living in
> the same town, or attending the same ApacheCon.  Real-time chats are often
> the source of very valuable insights, and having an online "hang-out" spot
> for a project has in the past been hugely worthwhile to the projects I've
> been involved with, both for devs and users.
> As long as no serious decisions are made without consulting the list, and
> someone posts summaries of all conversations that significantly affect the
> project, real-time channels are fine.  The point is that someone looking back
> at the project from five years down the road should be able to really see
> what happened by looking at the archives -- not that real-time is a Bad Thing.
> Thanks,
> --Glen
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