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From James Carman <>
Subject Re: No dev-, user- lists for small podlings (was: Re: [PROPOSAL] Kitty to Enter the Incubator)
Date Thu, 09 Sep 2010 19:33:53 GMT
On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 3:24 PM, Greg Stein <> wrote:
> The formation of your community is a BIG DEAL. Not something to
> casually sweep under the rug.
> Partitioning the community between users and devs makes it very
> difficult to establish a large, viable, sustainable community.
> If projects arrive at the Incubator with an already-built user
> community, then sure. Create separate lists. But small communities
> should (IMO) stick to a single dev@ list until you can't handle the
> traffic any more. If you started elsewhere with two lists, but your
> list traffic is still "small", then I would recommend combining them
> when arriving at the Incubator.
> It is obviously a call for each podling to make, so I'm simply
> recommending that all podlings consider the impact of dividing your
> community when you ask for separate dev/user lists. I believe it is
> rarely appropriate.

And I'm all about consistency.  Most (if not all, I haven't checked)
ASF projects have separate user/dev lists.  That's just how we do
things.  It's really not that much trouble to have two different lists
and just subscribe to both (if you're a developer).  That way,
development "stuff" (votes, board reports, etc.) doesn't bleed over
onto the user lists.  I've always subscribed to both lists for every
project I'm on.  If users are interested in the development goings-on,
then they can subscribe to the dev list.  Some folks, like us
"mentors", might not be interested in user issues, because we're
really not necessarily capable of answering the questions.  I don't
want that junk in my inbox (or label/folder).

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