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From Urs Lerch <>
Subject Re: Real-time communication (was [VOTE] ALOIS to enter the incubator)
Date Fri, 17 Sep 2010 14:21:15 GMT
Hi Glen

Thanks for your input and a different view. I took the chat channell off
the proposal, because I don't want that the project to be assessed on
this single point. If a chat is useful for the followers, why not, as
long as it is transparent and decisions are not made that way.


Am Freitag, den 17.09.2010, 09:58 -0400 schrieb Glen Daniels:
> On 9/17/2010 9:41 AM, Urs Lerch wrote:
> > To cut a long story short: ALOIS is _not_ about a chat channel, it's a
> > tool for security incident and event management. Since the chat channell
> > in the required resources list was only a wish, I gladly dropped it off
> > the proposal.
> Hi Urs,
> While I certainly don't think a chat channel needs to be on the proposal (for
> one thing, Apache projects tend to just use freenode's IRC network), I'd like
> to strongly reiterate Bertrand's points.  Off-list conversation is going to
> happen any time you have multiple devs working at the same company, living in
> the same town, or attending the same ApacheCon.  Real-time chats are often
> the source of very valuable insights, and having an online "hang-out" spot
> for a project has in the past been hugely worthwhile to the projects I've
> been involved with, both for devs and users.
> As long as no serious decisions are made without consulting the list, and
> someone posts summaries of all conversations that significantly affect the
> project, real-time channels are fine.  The point is that someone looking back
> at the project from five years down the road should be able to really see
> what happened by looking at the archives -- not that real-time is a Bad Thing.
> Thanks,
> --Glen
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