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From Carl Trieloff <>
Subject Re: Radical revamp
Date Wed, 18 Aug 2010 13:25:52 GMT
On 08/17/2010 07:48 PM, Ross Gardler wrote:
> On 17/08/2010 17:35, Carl Trieloff wrote:
>> To this question, (what will make this model succeed or fail) I find
>> myself not coming
>> to defensible answers... I would love to see thoughts of others on this
>> question.
>> The thread implies it comes down to the 3+ members on the project.
> It's not that simple for me.
> A single member who either knows all they need to know or (more 
> likely) knows when they need to ask for guidance from their peers is 
> all that is needed if (and only if) the IPMC trusts that member to do 
> the right thing.
> However, there are a number of reasons why a single mentor does not 
> work out including some fundamental requirements for binding votes on 
> certain activities.
> For me success or failure comes down to the quality of the mentoring 
> and the willingness of the project committers to learn how to apply 
> the Apache Way to their community.

Ross, I buy that, however what guidelines would IPMC use to allow a 
podling to use this model?  Does this mean we have 'lesser' and 
'greater' members or mentors?  Or is it a podling asking to use the 
model and then the IPMC deciding based on knowing who is on the podling 
PPMC to allow it, or if it is open to any podling, how do we as the IPMC 
understand that the project is ready to graduate?


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