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From Dan Haywood <>
Subject Re: Apache Isis: project pre-proposal: looking for mentors and a sponsor
Date Fri, 23 Jul 2010 08:02:07 GMT
Hi Uli,

That would be very cool.  I've been working on a Wicket integration, as 
my post below says, which is coming on very nicely.   So I think a 
Tapestry integration would equally work well.  Especially since - I 
imagine - you presumably have Tapestry experience whereas I am learning 
Wicket as I go...

Why don't you subscribe to the current NOF committers mailing list and 
we'll take it offline in terms of getting you involved?  Details are at 
the bottom left of the home page.


PS: You might also help us review our Apache project proposal before we 
post it here?

On 22/07/2010 21:12, Ulrich Stärk wrote:
> I'm especially interested in a Tapestry integration ;). You might want 
> to consider me as a committer...
> Uli
> On 21.07.2010 11:56, Dan Haywood wrote:
>> We're considering proposing a group of related open source projects to
>> the Apache Incubator. At an unconference a few weekends ago I met and
>> sounded out Bertrand Delacrataz and Lars Eilebrecht, who suggested a
>> brief posting here would be a good first step.
>> So: the Apache Isis (?) project will provide the ability to rapidly
>> develop domain-driven applications. Built on the Naked Objects framework
>> ( and a number of related sister projects
>> (, it allows full stack apps to be built just by
>> writing pojo domain objects. Technically, it's somewhat akin to an ORM,
>> but rather than just automatically persisting your objects, it
>> automatically provides all the other necessary layers. This means that
>> the development goes very very quickly, focusing on the bit that really
>> matters; the business application.
>> One particularly important aspect is the ability to customise the
>> generated UIs. The framework supports pluggable viewers running either
>> as webapps and RIA, and uses existing libraries such as Apache Wicket to
>> support customisation. The framework as a whole is customisable and
>> provides a plugin architecture to allow the other components to be
>> pluggable.
>> For some time Naked Objects, the framework, has elicited interest from
>> "early adopters", but our community remains small. We're hoping that
>> Apache will provide a platform by which we can grow our community into
>> the "early majority". We can demonstrate the commitment to do this (two
>> books have been written on Naked Objects). Until recently there were
>> just two main committers, both freelancer developers based in the UK.
>> Since then we have picked up three new committers (in Sweden, USA and
>> South Africa), two directly attributable to the publication of the
>> second of these books in Dec 2009.
>>  From our understanding of the Apache process, our proposal will need
>> some mentors and a sponsor. Vincent Massol (Maven) has already offered,
>> as has James Carman (Wicket). We're hoping that this post might interest
>> a few more, in which case we'll post a formal project proposal.
>> Thanks for reading this, looking forward to your replies.
>> Dan Haywood
>> Robert Matthews
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