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From Bertrand Delacretaz <>
Subject Re: [PROPOSAL] OpenCMIS incubator for Content Mangement Interoperability Services (CMIS)
Date Sat, 12 Dec 2009 11:34:29 GMT
On Sat, Dec 12, 2009 at 10:27 AM, Stefane Fermigier <> wrote:
> OK, I personally believe this is in contradiction with the first commandment
> of the Apache Way:
> "*Community over Code* is a frequent saying that exemplifies ASF projects.
> Community uses Openness and Merit, expressed through Collaborative and
> Consensus driven work, to build lasting projects that use a Pragmatic
> License. While a diverse community is a requirement for every ASF project,
> we also expect people to contribute as Individuals, and wear appropriate
> Hats."
> -> Let our Apache Foundation overlords decide...

Too bad...there are no overlords here ;-)

Some of us are speaking as members of the Incubator PMC, having seen a
few podlings succeed or fail, and trying to ensure success of at least
one (or maybe two if that's needed) CMIS podlings. But in the end it's
a decision of the whole Incubator PMC, which I imagine is heavily
influenced by having a champion and a few mentors take care of the

In my case, the lukewarm welcome to OpenCMIS is mostly due to the fact
that nothing was discussed with Chemistry before making the proposal.
To me that feels like doing things behind the Chemistry team's back,
which I don't like. Hopefully that's being sorted out with the current

> ...I still think that at least there should be common code (ex: constants, as
> suggested by Jukka) and I hope that this will the case, in any case....

Sure - that's also possible by sharing code, for example by giving
write access to both Chemistry and OpemCMIS committers to some part of
each other's code repository. I'd much prefer having a single project,
as I said before, but two projects that collaborate on common parts
(like a test suite I imagine) can work as well.


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