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From Martijn Dashorst <>
Subject Re: Insanity. Apache Incubator should be about education (was: [PROPOSAL][VOTE] Subversion)
Date Mon, 09 Nov 2009 14:26:12 GMT
On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 3:15 PM, Justin Erenkrantz <> wrote:
> To be clear, it's on the mentors to decide what is applicable and
> necessary for graduation - not the IPMC as a whole.

Nope... The whole IPMC has been tasked with oversight. The mentors are
proxies for the whole IPMC.

> The IPMC as a
> whole has only two roles: approving a proposal and recommending
> graduation - in between those two stages, it's up to the mentors to
> drive the show on behalf of the IPMC.  Non-mentors don't get to hold a
> podling hostage and all votes by the IPMC are majority-based (no vetos
> apply).

I'll vote -1 if I'm not convinced SVN is adhering to the set policies.
With the rant of Greg I'm less convinced that the project is
conducting itself as a proper Apache community (but rather as an Old
Boys Network), and I am more convinced that the incubation process for
SVN is just a lesson in rubber stamping than an actual and sincere
attempt at doing the right thing.


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