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From Davanum Srinivas <>
Subject Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache Aries incubator for Enterprise OSGi
Date Fri, 04 Sep 2009 20:10:56 GMT

On 09/04/2009 03:49 PM, Richard S. Hall wrote:
> So, no, I am not saying "everything should", but in general, it would be
> nice if the spec impls started there since we have a community of OSGi
> users and OSGi experts who are very active and receptive, many of whom
> also work in the EE space.

Will the people mentioned not participate if Aries is a separate podling to start with? After
all destination PMC can be 
determined during graduation process. Also the incubation process is to show new incoming
team how Apache works 
that better done as a podling or as a felix sub project? If we continue the same thought process,
will there every be 
any incubator podling with for any OSGi related activity?

> In short, it makes sense for spec impls tied to the Aries component
> model (for example), to be hosted there, but there is little need to
> create another project to incubate generic OSGi spec impls, since the
> Felix community was set up for that. The reality is, most OSGi specs are
> not huge projects so we likely wouldn't want TLPs for all of them, but
> nothing stops a subproject started at Felix from going TLP if it takes
> on a life of its own.

Choices are

1) Podling -> TLP
2) Podling -> Felix Sub project
3) Podling -> Felix Sub project -> TLP
4) Felix Sub project
5) Felix Sub project -> TLP

The first 3 effectively uses incubator process(es) to educate the incoming folks and provides
a strong grounding in 
ASF-land (at least that is what the intention is :)

So, why should we bypass incubator?


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