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From "Richard S. Hall" <>
Subject Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache Aries incubator for Enterprise OSGi
Date Thu, 03 Sep 2009 17:33:04 GMT
There was no attempt to contact the Felix PMC in general that I am aware 
and I certainly didn't know about it in advance.

And there seems to be a continued attempt to construe my original 
criticisms as "all of Aries should go into Felix".

I, personally, do not believe that all of Aries should go into Felix, I 
too think it should have its own identity. I was always only ever 
referring to the independent OSGi spec implementations. I was arguing 
that Felix is a good place to work on them, since it is part of what it 
is trying to achieve.

Further, I don't really understand the implication that somehow the 
burden is now on the Felix community to go and contribute to Aries on 
OSGi spec implementations just because of this proposal, when there was 
no attempt to work with the Felix community on creating OSGi spec 
implementations in the first.

The only conclusions I see being drawn by people who have invested very 
little in Felix is that we should dismantle the Felix charter so that we 
can accommodate the fact that some people don't want to play with us.

At that rate, I stand by my previous "vote" and otherwise people can do 
whatever they want in Aries.

-> richard

On 9/3/09 13:23, Niclas Hedhman wrote:
> Kevan,
> Was a contact with Felix made prior to dropping the proposal here? I got the
> impression that wasn't the case, which I find surprising... If I am wrong,
> what was the meat of such?
> I'm also less happy with the rhetoric here repeated over and over, seemingly
> uninterested in discussion of reaching a solution everyone can accept. (From
> both camps, btw)
> -- Niclas
> On Sep 4, 2009 12:53 AM, "Kevan Miller"<>  wrote:
> On Sep 3, 2009, at 12:53 AM, Niclas Hedhman wrote:>  On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at
> 3:19 AM, William A. Ro...
> Totally agree. Had certainly hoped that Felix committers would be interested
> in joining...
> --kevan
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