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From Niclas Hedhman <>
Subject Re: Diversity as an insurance policy (Was: [VOTE] Graduation of Apache Pivot)
Date Thu, 06 Aug 2009 03:16:40 GMT
I don't like to force "majority result" if there is controversy.

Having a couple of -1, and other not voting but practically agreeing with
you and Ant, is not the way to go.

I think they are as ready as they can get, considering the starting point
and the general attitude towards incubated projects. I don't think longer
incubation will improve the chances of sucees, the understanding of
ApacheWay or addressing your concerns (other than artificially)...

Would it make a difference, if I step up and make the initial PMC Chair, as
I have over the last couple of weeks started my own commitment to the

-- Niclas

On Aug 6, 2009 1:31 AM, "Jukka Zitting" <> wrote:


On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 6:58 PM, Martijn Dashorst<>
wrote: > AFAIK Nowhere...
True, but that's how I interpret it, for reasons stated earlier in this

My -1 in the Pivot vote is just a statement of concern based on my
interpretation of the exit criteria defined in our policy. If it were
up to me, I'd ask Pivot to focus a bit more in encouraging others to
participate also with writing the code before making them a TLP.

You can take that and the other -1 and try to address them before
calling another vote, or go with the majority result if you think our
concerns are baseless or already addressed.

BR, Jukka Zitting
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