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From Niclas Hedhman <>
Subject Re: This problem of mine
Date Tue, 12 May 2009 20:58:47 GMT
On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 8:12 PM, Craig L Russell <> wrote:

> The main point is that you and I disagree on whether FixFlyer Ki and Apache
> Ki are in the same domain.
> I have neither broad nor deep experience with securities trading systems,
> but I do know what financial securities are. And I claim that someone
> knowledgeable enough about computer systems to be in a position to evaluate
> software for securities trading systems, should know the difference between
> Java security and Securities Trading.

The ASF position has in the past been to not challenge industry for a
decision in court. If FixFlyer says that they think this is a problem
for them (and/or us) we should take that seriously and try to avoid
confrontation. It is too likely that they can toss a few 100k on
legal, whereas we shouldn't. The fact that they reacted within a few
months from the selection of the Apache Ki name, suggest that there is
indeed an industry overlap. AFAIUI, the overlap is not "per
functionality" but "per industry", we would probably get away with a
"Apache Focus" (Ford Focus) but maybe not a "Apache Windows" even if
it was a mechanical gadget, we are in the same industry as Microsoft.

So, Craig, I think your position in this case is weak, and Alan's
argument is convincing and I would not like to hear that in court. My
position is that the project should find another name. I know that the
community has been through a painful such experience before, and I
hope it can be made less stressful this time.

Niclas Hedhman, Software Developer - New Energy for Java

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