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From Emmanuel Lecharny <>
Subject Re: This problem of mine
Date Tue, 12 May 2009 22:33:28 GMT
Bernd Fondermann wrote:
>> JSecurity was deemed as a potential naming conflict risk (much in the same
>> way Ki is now), so we dropped it, and finally came to a vote to change the
>> name to Ki.  But this resolution took over 4 or 5 months to finally come to
>> a favorable vote, so we didn't want to go through that painful process all
>> over again, since it seemed like no one was willing to come to consensus on
>> other names.  It is very difficult to find an even remotely-correlated name
>> in the security space that might not infringe on another
>> site/company/product/trademark/patent.
> ok, I see. At least, for JSecurity, these conflicts never came up, did they?

> That's why so many project go with names from biona or mythology.
>> Given the difficulty and the enormous amount of time spent already, we just
>> wanted to move on to focus exactly on the things you mention, and only worry
>> about changing the name yet again if it was absolutely required by the
>> Incubator to do so.  That being said, if the Incubator says "the Ki podling
>> must change its name", then fine, we'll be happy to do so, but most of us
>> didn't want to spend the effort worrying about it unless necessary.
> To me, it seems neccessary, but this is just my 2 eurocent.
It took 4 months to move from JSecurity to Ki, just because, very like 
this thread, people are *discussing* for ever something which would be 
immediately solved if common sense was applied : avoid as much as 
possible any risk, and change the name if the risk is becoming a reality.

It will take another 4 months to decide to switch from Ki to something 
more appropriate if we follow the same pattern. That's a waste of time 
and energy.

Bernd, I'm totally on the same page with you.

cordialement, regards,
Emmanuel L├ęcharny

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