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From Ian Holsman <>
Subject Re: [Proposal] Helenus - a Cassandra fork
Date Mon, 17 Nov 2008 19:55:40 GMT
The latest news on this is that the original developers of Cassandra 
have chosen to incubate this directly, which I think is great news.

Paul Querna wrote:
> Roland Weber wrote:
>> Hello Ian,
>>> I'd like to propose a fork of the cassandra project. Since it was
>>> initially released by FaceBook, It hasn't really grown an active
>>> community around it.
>>> [...]
>>> Several people who plan to use the project in their companies have
>>> banded together and want to fork the project so that they keep the
>>> project alive, and build a community around it to grow it.
>>> I suggested we do this on the incubator, as it has experience building
>>> communities around code.
>> There seem to be good reasons for attempting a fork of the project.
>> However, my gut feeling says that this is a very political thing and
>> should better be started on neutral ground (from an Apache perspective).
>> Apache is a home for voluntary contributions. If Facebook is the
>> original source of the codebase, and they don't support the move here
>> (for example by signing a software grant), then the fork should not
>> be initiated here.
> No, Apache is for individuals who are part of community that want to 
> do *something*.
> I don't care what "facebook" as a company does or doesn't want to do 
> with the code, its open source, and the right to fork is there.
> As long as we can create a good community for it, I don't have any 
> objections to forking this project, or any project.
>> I'm not sure how a later move to Apache would be handled. We expect
>> incoming projects to get approval from all major contributors to their
>> codebase, if feasible.
> I don't think it matters.  We have had lots of overlapping projects 
> before, and generally in the long run, one of them turns out better, 
> and the community moves over to it.
> There isn't any wrong with with projects dying in the long run either, 
> it lets different groups of developers take different approaches.
> If someone wanted to fork httpd for example, I would ridicule them at 
> first, but if they could find 5-10 people to support it in the 
> community, then I believe we should let it continue, even as an ASF 
> project, and who knows, maybe the mythical Waka server will end up 
> doing exactly this.
> -Paul
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