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From "Matthieu Riou" <>
Subject Re: [DISCUSS] Alternative proposition [Was: [VOTE] [POLICY] Allow extra release distribution channels like the central Maven repository]
Date Thu, 18 Sep 2008 16:39:35 GMT
On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 1:48 AM, Gilles Scokart <> wrote:

> I think the vote (and discussions) about the use of extra distribution
> channel is going in a bad direction.
> I would like to try to summarize the two positions, see if we could
> not reconcile the two positions and found a better consensus.
> Here is what the 2 camps say:
> +1 : say:
>        - We can not forbid the incubator artefact to be published in the
> maven repository.  Once an incubating release is done, anyone is free
> to redistribute it.
>        - It bring benefits for the incubating project (more users, more
> visibility)
> -1 say:
>        - It allow the user to ignore the disclaimer.
>        - It is useless.  There is work around.
>        - We want to put obstacles to incubating project in order to
> motivate
> them to graduate.
>        - We should not take decision on it without consensus, so -1 is
> better.
>        - The maven repository present some security issues
> I think the main reason of the -1 is to protect the name of Apache.
> The incubating project are not allowed to have an excessive
> fascination for the apache brand [1].  The incubating project should
> not abuse the Apache brand.  That's why the incubator distributions
> are done only on channel well controlled by the ASF.
> I think both arguments are valuable. And it is maybe possible to
> reconciliation them.
> The alternative proposition that I think could reconciliate both camp is:
>   Why not allow the incubating project to release to any channel they
> want, provided that they don't use the apache name.

That's already allowed, the code is ASL 2.0. Anybody can build from sources
or even take a given release and distribute it using whichever channel they
want as long as it's not called Apache Foo. Several newly incubated projects
have done this during their transition period.


> PS: Please, don't discuss the specific case of the maven repository.
> Start an other thread somewhere else if you want to discuss it.
> --
> Gilles Scokart
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