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From "Niclas Hedhman" <>
Subject Re: Project Diversity Guidelines
Date Wed, 24 Sep 2008 03:28:11 GMT
On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 11:45 PM, Marnie McCormack <> wrote:

> Hi All,
> Some of you with long memories may recall previous threads about project
> diversity.
> At the end of one such debate, I put forward some ideas about what items
> might benefit from some good practice guidelines (see below).
> My special interest is Qpid, as I'll happy submit, and the discussion
> previously raged about diversity measures for graduation. There was much
> debate, and support for subjective assessment. All good stuff, but I'd like
> to capture the kinds of best practices measures people used in that debate.
> I'd like to pull some documentation together to flesh this out. *Would
> anyone care to work with me on this, and then I'll bring it back here for
> review/discussion/contribution ?* I was hoping for the gnarly wisdom of an
> old-timer :-)
> What do you think ?

*I* think that quite a lot of us don't want any more rules and guidelines,
and are quite happy to have a subjective view on whether a podling is ready
to graduate. The driving force, IMHO, should be that the Incubator PMC
doesn't *want* podlings to hang around for long, and basically should push
them into a graduatable state.
>From the podling's perspective, an important part is to have and keep active
Mentors. If they are AWOL (which happens to all of us at times) yell and we
will try to find new ones. If you can find other ASF committers and Members
interested to participate in your mailing list discussions, then that would
be an enormous help in my subjective view of readiness, as their word would
weigh in heavily.

As for more documentation; I am -0 on that, but I guess Craig and Martijn
will probably jump at the opportunity ;o) Documents are hard to write and
even harder to keep up-to-date.


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