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From Akara Sucharitakul <Akara.Sucharita...@Sun.COM>
Subject Re: [VOTE] accept Olio into incubation
Date Wed, 24 Sep 2008 20:10:21 GMT

Akara wrote:
> +1 
> Will Sobel
> -----Original Message-----
> From:  Shanti Subramanyam - PAE <Shanti.Subramanyam@Sun.COM>
> Subj:  Re: [VOTE] accept Olio into incubation
> Date:  Wed Sep 24, 2008 9:38 am
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> +1 (obviously)
> Shanti
> On 09/23/08 07:33, Craig L Russell wrote:
>> Please vote on accepting Olio into incubation.
>> The proposal can be found at:
>> [This proposal was formerly known as Web20Kit]
>> The text of the proposal:
>> OlioProposal
>> Abstract
>> Apache Olio is a web 2.0 toolkit to help developers evaluate the 
>> suitability, functionality and performance of various web technologies 
>> by implementing a reasonably complex application in several different 
>> technologies.
>> Proposal
>> Olio will develop an example application to understand the benefits, 
>> performance, and scalability of popular web technologies. Multiple 
>> implementations of the application are planned - each providing the same 
>> functionality but staying true to the philosophy of its base 
>> language/framework.
>> Background
>> Most web 2.0 sites today use open source languages and frameworks such 
>> as PHP, Ruby on Rails, and Java EE to develop their applications. 
>> Deployments of these applications also use popular open source servers 
>> such as Apache httpd, Tomcat, MySQL, Memcache, and Glassfish. Many other 
>> servers/technologies such as lighttpd, mogileFS, mongrels, JRuby are 
>> also gaining popularity.
>> With the myriad technologies available, it is not easy to understand how 
>> they differ, especially in terms of performance and scalability. With 
>> varied levels of documentation available for some open source 
>> applications, it is also quite difficult for a web 2.0 startup to 
>> understand the correct usage of these technologies so that they don't 
>> become a bottleneck as their site grows.
>> Rationale
>> Olio is a toolkit that will attempt to address the above issues.
>> What it does
>> Olio defines an example web 2.0 application (the initial implementation 
>> uses an events site somewhat like and provides three 
>> implementations: PHP, Java EE, and Ruby on Rails. The toolkit will also 
>> define ways to drive load against the application in order to measure 
>> performance.
>> As developers join the project, they can implement the same application 
>> using their favorite web frameworks and compare their implementations to 
>> others.
>> What you can learn from it
>> a) Understand how to use various web 2.0 technologies such as AJAX, 
>> memcached, mogileFS etc. in the creation of your own application. Use 
>> the code in the application to understand the subtle complexities 
>> involved and how to get around issues with these technologies.
>> b) Evaluate the differences in the implementations: PHP, Ruby on Rails, 
>> Java EE, and other contributed implementations to understand which might 
>> best work for your situation.
>> c) Within each language implementation, evaluate different 
>> infrastructure technologies by changing the servers used (e.g: apache vs 
>> lighttpd, MySQL vs PostgreSQL, Ruby vs Jruby etc.)
>> d) Drive load against the application to evaluate the performance and 
>> scalability of the chosen platform.
>> e) Experiment with different algorithms (e.g. memcache locking, a 
>> different DB access API) by replacing portions of code in the application.
>> A robust, community-developed standard implementations of a web 2.0 
>> application using different technologies will enable developers to 
>> compare and contrast these technologies in a manner that does not exist 
>> today. By providing excellent sample implementations of a concrete 
>> application that is available to everyone, we will enable faster and 
>> easier application development for users. Although we list three 
>> implementations in this proposal, we encourage others to come up with 
>> many more using other language stacks and/or frameworks e.g. Spring 
>> framework, Python etc.
>> Current Status
>> This is a new project with some sample not-ready-for-prime-time code.
>> Meritocracy
>> The initial developers are very familiar with meritocratic open source 
>> development, both at Apache and elsewhere. Apache was chosen 
>> specifically because the initial developers want to encourage this style 
>> of development for the project.
>> Community
>> Olio seeks to create developer and user communities during incubation.
>> Core Developers
>> The initial core developers are Sun Microsystems, Inc. employees, and 
>> faculty and students at UC Berkeley. We hope to expand this very quickly.
>> Alignment
>> The developers of the Olio want to work with the Apache Software 
>> Foundation specifically because Apache has proven to provide a strong 
>> foundation and set of practices for community-based development.
>> Known RisksOrphaned products
>> This project has a lot of enthusiasm among the core developers, has 
>> ongoing development, and is not orphaned.
>> Inexperience with Open Source
>> The initial developers are well-versed in open source methodologies and 
>> practices.
>> Homogenous Developers
>> The initial group of d
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