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Subject Re: [VOTE] accept Olio into incubation
Date Wed, 24 Sep 2008 17:23:00 GMT


Will Sobel

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From:  Shanti Subramanyam - PAE <Shanti.Subramanyam@Sun.COM>
Subj:  Re: [VOTE] accept Olio into incubation
Date:  Wed Sep 24, 2008 9:38 am
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+1 (obviously)


On 09/23/08 07:33, Craig L Russell wrote:
> Please vote on accepting Olio into incubation.
> The proposal can be found at:
> [This proposal was formerly known as Web20Kit]
> The text of the proposal:
> OlioProposal
> Abstract
> Apache Olio is a web 2.0 toolkit to help developers evaluate the 
> suitability, functionality and performance of various web technologies 
> by implementing a reasonably complex application in several different 
> technologies.
> Proposal
> Olio will develop an example application to understand the benefits, 
> performance, and scalability of popular web technologies. Multiple 
> implementations of the application are planned - each providing the same 
> functionality but staying true to the philosophy of its base 
> language/framework.
> Background
> Most web 2.0 sites today use open source languages and frameworks such 
> as PHP, Ruby on Rails, and Java EE to develop their applications. 
> Deployments of these applications also use popular open source servers 
> such as Apache httpd, Tomcat, MySQL, Memcache, and Glassfish. Many other 
> servers/technologies such as lighttpd, mogileFS, mongrels, JRuby are 
> also gaining popularity.
> With the myriad technologies available, it is not easy to understand how 
> they differ, especially in terms of performance and scalability. With 
> varied levels of documentation available for some open source 
> applications, it is also quite difficult for a web 2.0 startup to 
> understand the correct usage of these technologies so that they don't 
> become a bottleneck as their site grows.
> Rationale
> Olio is a toolkit that will attempt to address the above issues.
> What it does
> Olio defines an example web 2.0 application (the initial implementation 
> uses an events site somewhat like and provides three 
> implementations: PHP, Java EE, and Ruby on Rails. The toolkit will also 
> define ways to drive load against the application in order to measure 
> performance.
> As developers join the project, they can implement the same application 
> using their favorite web frameworks and compare their implementations to 
> others.
> What you can learn from it
> a) Understand how to use various web 2.0 technologies such as AJAX, 
> memcached, mogileFS etc. in the creation of your own application. Use 
> the code in the application to understand the subtle complexities 
> involved and how to get around issues with these technologies.
> b) Evaluate the differences in the implementations: PHP, Ruby on Rails, 
> Java EE, and other contributed implementations to understand which might 
> best work for your situation.
> c) Within each language implementation, evaluate different 
> infrastructure technologies by changing the servers used (e.g: apache vs 
> lighttpd, MySQL vs PostgreSQL, Ruby vs Jruby etc.)
> d) Drive load against the application to evaluate the performance and 
> scalability of the chosen platform.
> e) Experiment with different algorithms (e.g. memcache locking, a 
> different DB access API) by replacing portions of code in the application.
> A robust, community-developed standard implementations of a web 2.0 
> application using different technologies will enable developers to 
> compare and contrast these technologies in a manner that does not exist 
> today. By providing excellent sample implementations of a concrete 
> application that is available to everyone, we will enable faster and 
> easier application development for users. Although we list three 
> implementations in this proposal, we encourage others to come up with 
> many more using other language stacks and/or frameworks e.g. Spring 
> framework, Python etc.
> Current Status
> This is a new project with some sample not-ready-for-prime-time code.
> Meritocracy
> The initial developers are very familiar with meritocratic open source 
> development, both at Apache and elsewhere. Apache was chosen 
> specifically because the initial developers want to encourage this style 
> of development for the project.
> Community
> Olio seeks to create developer and user communities during incubation.
> Core Developers
> The initial core developers are Sun Microsystems, Inc. employees, and 
> faculty and students at UC Berkeley. We hope to expand this very quickly.
> Alignment
> The developers of the Olio want to work with the Apache Software 
> Foundation specifically because Apache has proven to provide a strong 
> foundation and set of practices for community-based development.
> Known RisksOrphaned products
> This project has a lot of enthusiasm among the core developers, has 
> ongoing development, and is not orphaned.
> Inexperience with Open Source
> The initial developers are well-versed in open source methodologies and 
> practices.
> Homogenous Developers
> The initial group of d
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