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From "Davanum Srinivas" <>
Subject Re: Incubator Maven repo [WAS Re: [VOTE] [POLICY] Allow extra release distribution channels like the central Maven repository]
Date Thu, 18 Sep 2008 01:25:55 GMT

Since you are stating facts. Let's make it clear that when someone
download the artifacts, there's a good chance that you will see the
disclaimers. With maven, we don't. That's the hiccup that caused the
policy in place right now and the bruising battle now being fought is
caused by the fact that there is no other
maven-pmc-blessed-and-approved-way to inform the folks who
auto-magically pull dependencies as of this moment and there is not
likely to be one in the future AFAICT.

-- dims

On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 9:14 PM, William A. Rowe, Jr.
<> wrote:
> Henning Schmiedehausen wrote:
>> On Wed, 2008-09-17 at 06:57 -0400, Daniel Kulp wrote:
>>> I voted +1, but I personally think the vote is kind of irrelevant.....
>>> Thus:
>>> If the central maven repository maintainers (Maven PMC) decide to put
>>> incubator artifacts into their repository without a click through "this is
>>> incubator code" disclaimer, we'd have no legal reason to say no.   The
>>> Apache License allows them to do so.
>> The Incubator PMC controls the policy on how podlings release. Not the
>> upstream policy. And this policy says: "You keep your releases separated
>> from the official releases". Allowing the usage of a maven repo for
>> publishing these is a privilege, not a right.
> That information is stale;
> There was earlier confusion in the life of the Incubator that an incubating
> release is not an ASF release.  This misunderstanding has been corrected
> (repeatedly).
> The Maven team has an obligation to apply the same rules for ASF artifacts
> as for Third Party artifacts, owing to the fact that they assert no more
> control than any other typical mirror.  And to correct your other
> misunderstanding, the maven repository is moving to the ASF, although
> still co-located out-of-house on ISP hardware.
> Bill
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