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From "Justin Erenkrantz" <>
Subject Re: [DISCUSS] Do we really need an incubator?
Date Tue, 08 Jul 2008 00:01:27 GMT
On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 2:49 PM, Daniel Kulp <> wrote:
> So, my question is, if Apache is about "Community over code", why are we
> putting up barriers to getting the code if that is also creating barriers to
> building the community?

Apache isn't about 'community over code'.  The code is just as
important - if not more so.  For Incubator releases, the releases
aren't held to the same legal standard as releases from other PMCs.
The Incubator PMC is generally comfortable releasing code that is not
yet legally at the same standard as other PMCs would.  Everyone
understands that and it's okay.  This is why we have explicit
disclaimers regarding releases.  In light of that, I believe it is
prudent for us to place certain reasonable low barriers at getting the
code.  Since Maven can't display any notices when it downloads a
binary, then that isn't a tool that we should be recommending for
implicit distribution.  The Maven devs are fully aware what it would
take to satisfy that, but it's not very high on their priority list.
Hence, it's not high on my list to work around a tool that doesn't
support our desired policies.  -- justin

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