From general-return-18529-apmail-incubator-general-archive=incubator.apache.org@incubator.apache.org Thu Jun 05 21:41:56 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 40453 invoked from network); 5 Jun 2008 21:41:55 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (140.211.11.2) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 5 Jun 2008 21:41:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 62082 invoked by uid 500); 5 Jun 2008 21:41:57 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 61796 invoked by uid 500); 5 Jun 2008 21:41:56 -0000 Mailing-List: contact general-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: general@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list general@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 61785 invoked by uid 99); 5 Jun 2008 21:41:56 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 05 Jun 2008 14:41:56 -0700 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.0 required=10.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: domain of matthieu.riou@gmail.com designates 74.125.46.152 as permitted sender) Received: from [74.125.46.152] (HELO yw-out-1718.google.com) (74.125.46.152) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 05 Jun 2008 21:41:07 +0000 Received: by yw-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id 5so527766ywr.0 for ; Thu, 05 Jun 2008 14:41:17 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender :to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references :x-google-sender-auth; bh=SqRIRTH9ZzhmB5o9QDXMY+6ZrQ54NJm2mZw7nB0wbDY=; b=utlOQFyiq2V+q/24xVL/cktgXBj8S7/0S72773I+9k/XkZuobl9DtX9Lr8hfsRgq37 tHH/CdirliPd+Udo4Q6HVEp8QzjLdTj6lScvFoDHGfWGo2ulN8RhXZHWhW8Oa3uvrpY2 dvmP5sBL1Szwiz8r4w6u620fLlo+cYbVbyIps= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=o8m5Xz7o3y6iOoBlQj9e3HwLrww94b04YOhjITTMCuOa8ik0fOZ5XCHILhemPwUMuy xOUZJ8s+vF8Y77mevQnksL/w+qAIk1HEz7L+SCnXEc3F8y4BOA6mKU6TKMShQSYAVilj Hb7Jeen1mQZNuU3Lk+iaIe/AQ6d6czXnq+FVo= Received: by 10.151.14.4 with SMTP id r4mr2483546ybi.199.1212702077412; Thu, 05 Jun 2008 14:41:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.151.113.3 with HTTP; Thu, 5 Jun 2008 14:41:17 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 14:41:17 -0700 From: "Matthieu Riou" Sender: matthieu.riou@gmail.com To: general@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: INCUBATOR-57 aka IPMC votes to ratify PPMC committers In-Reply-To: <31cc37360806041728sea7d64av8672ea5dd5fa5e13@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_3125_23669816.1212702077413" References: <5c902b9e0806031329m5d437e7w88b92199e456e722@mail.gmail.com> <31cc37360806041728sea7d64av8672ea5dd5fa5e13@mail.gmail.com> X-Google-Sender-Auth: 047e329cd9e480eb X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org ------=_Part_3125_23669816.1212702077413 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Same here. +1. On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 5:28 PM, Henri Yandell wrote: > +1. > > I very much like the idea of the PPMC -> Incubator PMC relationship > modeling the board whenever possible. > > Hen > > On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 1:29 PM, Justin Erenkrantz > wrote: > > > I'd like to make the suggestion that we alter this to: > > --- > > Vote on the podling's private (PPMC) list, with notice posted to the > > Incubator private list. The notice is a separate email forwarding the > > vote email with a cover statement that this vote is underway on the > > podling's private list. Many consider this approach to be best > > practice. After completing the vote on the PPMC list, the proposer > > *sends a note to* the Incubator PMC private list, summarizing the > > discussion and vote, with a reference to the archived discussion and > > vote threads by the PPMC. *Any member of the Incubator PMC can ACK > > the receipt of the vote. This starts a 72-hour window for lazy > > consensus. After 72 hours and no requests by any Incubator PMC member > > for a full vote by the Incubator PMC, the committer request is > > approved by the Incubator PMC and the PPMC can start the committer > > invitation process.* > > --- > > > > This intentionally follows the procedure for adding a PMC member wrt > > full ASF board. I like the concept of expanding this for committers > > as well for Incubation, so there. I don't like needless 'dual > > voting', but I do want the IPMC to have the chance to execute > > oversight. > > > > WDYT? -- justin > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org > > ------=_Part_3125_23669816.1212702077413--