From general-return-18480-apmail-incubator-general-archive=incubator.apache.org@incubator.apache.org Mon Jun 02 17:20:32 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 12696 invoked from network); 2 Jun 2008 17:20:31 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (140.211.11.2) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 2 Jun 2008 17:20:31 -0000 Received: (qmail 3912 invoked by uid 500); 2 Jun 2008 17:20:31 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 3742 invoked by uid 500); 2 Jun 2008 17:20:31 -0000 Mailing-List: contact general-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: general@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list general@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 3731 invoked by uid 99); 2 Jun 2008 17:20:31 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 02 Jun 2008 10:20:31 -0700 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.0 required=10.0 tests=SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: domain of gnodet@gmail.com designates 72.14.220.155 as permitted sender) Received: from [72.14.220.155] (HELO fg-out-1718.google.com) (72.14.220.155) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 02 Jun 2008 17:19:43 +0000 Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id l26so789361fgb.26 for ; Mon, 02 Jun 2008 10:19:59 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=/RObA/IxDitVstk5nvbjqOtf7fS83PdN27lMegPqw54=; b=PIDpvIjRHOCVQCXFoCVMOJ8lhk2WIN2rGxN/xzKOi3EgA/7NsFMsbZ4N5HeMv7GvsAy4dfKFVmnDEBZ3YbPeR0cPoJhBhB6WreYODV16dOqcZ5uu/gJw/ZVj3Q8HFf7Ghq67qYanssF/Q8M4I283AJXOO+SBUZk+TfuYaB0YW/U= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=nG7W97tzs4eHc1LXhc3OSfXLXnz8hcfuVY1YvQl5wXerzUGWfZQEECJKXK6rVkl0gU7ylGJnD20UlERWw6nyCrnNLdqlq+J5aOTZn+6Wqg4zdASDFdrP4qpnppKKJnz2wBay5q4QWKUFdyx8Ai78F4kVeshCMazNGL2YRd0JYoA= Received: by 10.86.1.11 with SMTP id 11mr5358891fga.27.1212427196530; Mon, 02 Jun 2008 10:19:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.86.58.15 with HTTP; Mon, 2 Jun 2008 10:19:56 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2008 19:19:56 +0200 From: "Guillaume Nodet" To: general@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: maven-repository cont. In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <2BABBE7D2A66E04DB8A66A527D29927E403DE5@intrepid.infinity.nu> <25aac9fc0806020752q14652a3fl649484a744f999f2@mail.gmail.com> <44b57a610806020759h1166e60fseb76f28d8dee9a32@mail.gmail.com> <25aac9fc0806020847v76819fc5u5282026286ee004d@mail.gmail.com> <2BABBE7D2A66E04DB8A66A527D29927E403E1B@intrepid.infinity.nu> X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org Why would someone care or even see them ? Are you regularly crawling the maven repo for new artifacts ? We don't have to be ashamed if a podling does not graduate, so I don't think we have to try erasing the memory of this podling. A non graduated podling could still be revived at a later time or being forked outside of the ASF. On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 6:21 PM, James Carman wrote: > On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 12:17 PM, Brian E. Fox wrote: >>>Part of the Incubation process is to ensure that there is sufficient >>>community to maintain the code after incubation. >> >> >>>It seems a bad idea to allow artefacts into the main repository where >>>they can become dependencies unless there is some chance that they >>>will be maintained. >> >> This is an argument for saying that TLP Apache projects can't depend on >> incubator artifacts then. Otherwise those projects suddenly don't work >> because a dependency disappeared. >> >> I personally don't think this should be the case. If they are released >> and someone wants to use them, then they should go into central where >> they live forever like everything else. Just because the community goes >> away does not mean the artifact should disappear too. >> > > But, doesn't that somewhat hurt the Apache name if we have a bunch of > orphaned projects sitting out there in limbo with our name on it? > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org > > -- Cheers, Guillaume Nodet ------------------------ Blog: http://gnodet.blogspot.com/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org