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From "Jihoon Kim" <>
Subject Re: Request for assistance in incubating an Alchemy project
Date Sat, 21 Jun 2008 22:12:03 GMT
Thanks for the response, I wasn't quite sure whether there weren't
interest in the project or simply that it has been missed. Now that I
know there isn't any interest, I will consider moving the project to
an another repository.

On Sat, Jun 21, 2008 at 2:55 PM, Martin Cooper <> wrote:
> Honestly, I wonder whether it is worth pursuing this at all. The proposal
> has been posted to this list five times in the last month, with only a
> single response. That doesn't fill me with confidence, to say the least. If
> there's so little interest in bringing it in at all, that doesn't seem to
> augur well for a successful incubation.
> I wonder, too, at the doggedness in trying to bring it here, rather than
> simply setting up shop at Google Code or the like, and moving forward with
> it there.
> --
> Martin Cooper
> On Sat, Jun 21, 2008 at 2:43 PM, Jihoon Kim <> wrote:
>> Hi!
>> My name is Jihoon Kim and I was hoping if I could get some guidance in
>> incubating a project. I have read through various Wikipages and I do
>> have some idea of what must be done to incubate a project, move it to
>> a state of a podling, and finally have it promoted. But though I do
>> have a rough understanding of the process, I was hoping to get Mentors
>> and Champions in helping us implement them.
>> The project that I had planned is Alchemy project, which will allow
>> additional Web 2.0 technologies as JSF component libraries. First set
>> of component libraries to include within this project is the bridge
>> between Flex and JSF, as can be seen within the following JIRA link
>> Initially, I thought to contribute it as a patch to MyFaces, but since
>> the size of the contribution was rather large and I was the sole
>> developer, MyFaces PMCs have directed me to the Incubator to incubate
>> it as component library under Alchemy project. Then when the project
>> has matured and have gathered enough community members to sustain the
>> maintenance of the code, they said they would consider having it as a
>> subproject under the MyFaces main project.
>> In a nutshell, the contribution is to give users capability in
>> creating Flex components as JSF components. So users users would
>> create the components as normal JSF components and the contribution
>> will create the necessary SWF files and etcetera and link the values
>> of the components back to the managed beans using JSON+JavaScript and
>> ActionScript. So all users would need is a Jar of the component
>> library and they would be able to create Flex applications by creating
>> normal JSF components. The contribution will then bind the data from
>> managed beans to components within the created SWF file.
>> Further detail regarding the project has been written up within the
>> following proposal :
>> Current members who are interested in participating in this project are :
>>    myself [Jihoon Kim]
>>    Hazem Saleh [committer within MyFaces]
>>    Glauco P. Gomes [developer within MyFaces]
>>    Matthias Wessendorf [who has suggested in helping out as a
>> mentor/champion]
>>    my coworkers
>> I think that this integration will be an interesting one that users
>> can use to create Web 2.0 applications beyond the method of
>> JavaScript. Also since I think that this is one of the areas that has
>> lots of potential, I think with time there will be additional
>> components/ideas related to the contribution that will be brought
>> forth [i.e. possible handling of requirement of flash in user's
>> browsers {rendering it as a Dojo, HTML, or Flash depending on user's
>> browser setting}].
>> During the discussion of this contribution within the MyFaces mailing
>> list, many have shown positive interest in the project providing good
>> sign that the components libraries will be used by developer
>> community. Also the integration will possibly reduce number of
>> discussion in various mailing list of "JSF vs Flex" and will allow
>> developers to create simple Flex application without purchasing
>> FlexBuilder and learning of the technology.
>> MyFaces PMCs have confirmed that there aren't any legal issues for the
>> Flex and JSF integration by pinging the legal mailing list.
>> Thank you!!!
>> --
>> Sincerely,
>> Ji Hoon Kim
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