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From "Paul Fremantle" <>
Subject Re: [Proposal] NoNameYet : Link Error - please use this link
Date Sun, 03 Feb 2008 09:12:29 GMT

I am a mentor with Tuscany. I'm not concerned about where Tuscany is
now... I think its growing well and is progressing towards graduation.
However, Tuscany did have a significant fork a while back and this new
proposal has completely confused me: basically its a proposal for part
of what's already being coded in Tuscany by the two companies who
couldn't agree to do it together in Tuscany. As a mentor I feel like
raking this up isn't particularly good for Tuscany, but the fact is
that the new proposal does need addressing in the light of existing


On Feb 2, 2008 2:47 PM, Leo Simons <> wrote:
> On Jan 31, 2008, at 3:02 PM, Paul Fremantle wrote:
> > Maybe no-one has responded yet because no-one wants to ask the hard
> > questions!
> Nah, it's mostly because the mail threading on this thingie was
> broken a few times. It makes things hard to follow. Simon -- please
> use that "reply-to" button in your mailer.
> The other immediate problem is the quality of the proposal text. If
> this is to go forward, please rewrite the proposal so that it can be
> readily evaluated by someone who can never remember what Tuscany is
> exactly, is in denial that there's still such a thing as the JCP or
> JSRs coming out of it, and has a healthy bias against fluffy java
> framework stuff.
> > Perhaps you can explain why this effort isn't being rolled into the
> > Tuscany work.
> anyone else getting completely confused here?
> You're one of the tuscany mentors, right Paul? Could you explain what
> has been happening in tuscany-land that has you so concerned? I do
> vaguely remember some kind of problems back in November...what has
> been happening since
> ?
> cheers,
> - Leo
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Paul Fremantle
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