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From Craig L Russell <Craig.Russ...@Sun.COM>
Subject Re: RAT set up [WAS Re: [RESULT] [VOTE] RAT to enter incubator]
Date Sat, 24 Nov 2007 19:43:34 GMT
Hi Robert,

On Nov 20, 2007, at 6:08 AM, Robert Burrell Donkin wrote:

> On Nov 19, 2007 11:23 PM, Craig L Russell <>  
> wrote:
>> Hi Robert,
>> On Nov 19, 2007, at 3:14 PM, Robert Burrell Donkin wrote:
>>> On Nov 18, 2007 11:44 PM, Craig L Russell <>
>>> wrote:
>>>> Just one question. Why are you not a mentor for this project? I  
>>>> don't
>>>> see anything in the rules against it, and I believe it will be  
>>>> easier
>>>> all around if you can also wear the mentor hat.
>>> it would probably be easier but i thought that independent mentors
>>> would be healthier and the experience might be educational
>> I'd say we were conflating the two roles played by mentors:
>> Mentoring the podling
>> Providing infrastructure support for the podling
> +1
> infrastructure approval should probably rest with the IPMC in general
> rather than the mentors specifically

IIUC, Mentors are tasked with setting up infrastructure because any  
one person would have so much work to do that no one would ever  
volunteer to do it. So we have volunteer Mentors who have karma and  
are willing to step up.

Specific things that Mentors do for podlings in this regard are  
asking via JIRA for infra to do things that only infrastructure folks  
can do; establishing the svn repo; adding podling committers to  
authorization files; moderating email; and setting up the web site.

I think that Someone needs to be responsible for these things, and I  
don't see that "the IPMC in general" or the IPMC chair specifically  
needs to have anything to do with them.


>>> i'll go with my original plan and email the mentors
>> I have no issue with you doing infrastructure for the rat project...
> it's something i really should have done anyway
> - robert
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Craig Russell
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P.S. A good JDO? O, Gasp!

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